Spotlight on... Michael Ciepiela
Ahead of the American Food Sure Summit 2025, Torie spoke to Michael Ciepiela, Director of Food Safety & Quality Assurance at The Spice Lab, about his career in food safety, the importance of a good food safety culture and his outlook on the future of the industry.
Ahead of the American Food Sure Summit 2025, Torie spoke to Michael Ciepiela, Director of Food Safety & Quality Assurance at The Spice Lab, about his career in food safety, the importance of a good food safety culture and his outlook on the future of the industry.
Michael will be speaking at the annual American Food Sure Summit in Atlanta - don't miss out on two brilliant days of presentations from experts across the food safety and quality industry. Click here to get tickets.
Video Transcript
00:06
Hi everyone and welcome to this FSQ
Network interview with Michael Chipiella.
00:11
Michael has over a decade of diverse
experience in the food and beverage
00:15
industry,
along with experience in the
00:17
pharmaceutical sector specialising in
quality assurance and food safety.
00:22
His current role is Director of Food
Safety and Quality Insurance at the Spice
00:26
Lab.
00:27
Michael will be speaking at the upcoming
American Food Show Summit in Atlanta in
00:32
March about food safety culture and joins
me today to share a bit more on this
00:36
topic.
00:36
So thank you so much for being here,
Michael.
00:39
Yeah, thank you for having me.
00:40
I appreciate it.
00:42
Perfect.
00:42
So let's just kick off a bit with a bit
of background to you.
00:45
When and how did you get into the food
safety industry?
00:48
And also,
can you share a bit about what your
00:50
current role is?
00:52
Yeah,
so I started in the food industry about
00:55
12 years ago now.
00:57
I started as AQA Tech right out of
college, in college.
01:02
So I didn't really take any food safety
courses.
01:05
It wasn't really offered to me.
01:07
My degree was more focused in biology and
genetics based.
01:11
So when I got to school,
I applied for everything that said
01:15
biology and got into the food science
side of things and then just started
01:19
climbing the corporate ladder very
quickly.
01:22
You know, as AQA Tech, you're,
you're eager to learn all fast sets of
01:26
food safety operations.
01:29
I've always been in quality assurance
throughout my entire career.
01:32
I've never gone like production or R&
D or anything like that.
01:36
But I'm very big on taking advantage of
any,
01:38
every opportunity you have in front of
you.
01:42
And I knew I wanted to do more than just
be AQA Tech the rest of my life.
01:47
And the, the next position up at my,
my first company,
01:50
the supervisor had been there for like 30
plus years.
01:53
So I'm like,
I need to bounce around a little bit here.
01:55
And then as I started bouncing around to
different food sectors,
01:58
I started getting more and more
experience.
02:01
You know, I worked in confections,
I worked in dairy, worked in meats,
02:05
worked in salsas and then in
pharmaceutical a little bit.
02:09
So like I said,
just taking advantage of that.
02:11
Went to school in New York,
so I wanted to escape the snowy weather
02:17
up there.
02:18
So eventually it bounced right down to
Florida and that's where I am now as
02:21
director of food safety and quality
assurance at the Spice Lab.
02:25
Amazing.
02:25
I am actually going to New York in a
couple of weeks,
02:28
so I'm hoping that the the cold chill has
like passed a little bit,
02:33
but we'll have to see.
02:35
Yeah,
it's it's it's a little chilly down here
02:37
in Florida right now.
02:38
It's in the 50s.
02:38
So that's why I got the long sleeve on.
02:40
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:42
Poor you, poor you.
02:43
Brilliant.
02:44
So I guess from that kind of extensive
experience,
02:47
I wonder how you think that the food
safety industry has changed since when
02:50
you first started out and where you are
now.
02:54
So I would say the biggest thing is
probably going paperless.
02:59
A lot of things are going to the online
integration,
03:01
whether you're tracking quality or
regulatory compliance cheques through an
03:05
iPad or doing production cheques on the
floor.
03:09
I'm used to walking around or early on
walking around the clipboard,
03:13
doing the the cheques with the pen and
then filing away that piece of paper in a
03:18
filing cabinet.
03:19
And the filing cabinet just keeps growing,
growing, growing, growing.
03:22
And then obviously for traceability
purposes,
03:25
it makes it a lot more challenging with
being able to find that specific document,
03:29
especially one if you have a lot like a
longer shelf life.
03:31
So for example,
we have salts here that go 10 years.
03:35
I mean, salt really never expires, but we,
we put ten years on it and then having to
03:39
go back 10 years looking for that
specific document.
03:41
If you have a a recall on there for some
reason, knock on wood,
03:45
you know you're able to find it,
but you know the first one being
03:49
paperless.
03:51
Secondly,
I attended a conference last year and GS
03:54
1 is really starting to do a really good
job with magnification of clean labels,
04:00
including a smart label on a lot of the
products.
04:05
Specifically in produce side of things.
04:08
You want to know exactly where your crop
came from,
04:10
what field it was treated with is organic,
it's non organic,
04:13
so the pesticide comes into play in there.
04:16
And then being able to track that all the
way through both domestically and
04:21
internationally.
04:23
And then lastly, going forward,
just the exposure of conferences and
04:28
papers and webinars and seminars and all
this has really grown a lot.
04:33
And that might just be from my exposure
from starting as AQA Tech to becoming a
04:36
director now.
04:37
You know,
I get a little bit more of that side of
04:40
things in the regulatory and trainings
and education,
04:43
but I feel like there's more of that out
there now.
04:46
Consumers are demanding more from
manufacturers as they should.
04:51
And I think it's a really good thing that
we're playing into that and giving more
04:55
education to everyone.
04:57
Yeah,
I guess it's really about our ability to
05:00
have so much more information at our
fingertips,
05:02
both as consumers and then also from a
kind of as a employee of a company being
05:07
able to access the the information and
and dig into it a little bit.
05:11
So that's great.
05:12
I guess on the flip side of that come,
well,
05:15
we all know kind of that that digital
transformation piece comes with its own
05:18
challenges.
05:19
But what do you think that the main
challenges are currently facing the food
05:23
safety industry?
05:26
So from a couple different side of things.
05:28
So internally,
I would say driving a food safety culture,
05:32
it's hard to establish a robust food
safety culture across especially like a
05:36
bigger CPG where you have multi sites,
thousands of employees as opposed to a
05:41
smaller privately owned company where you
have one site.
05:46
That's one of the biggest things for that.
05:47
And then in conjunction with that,
the management pie in for that.
05:51
So as the quality representative you want
to be on the shop floor driving this
05:56
culture if you will,
that forces the employees practise good
06:00
food safety practises.
06:02
And then how you measure that ultimately
externally keeping up with harmonised
06:08
regulations.
06:10
There's a lot of different regulations,
especially internationally and domestic.
06:14
We're getting closer to that now,
but overall,
06:17
just kind of tying that all together and
making sure that SQF lines up,
06:21
BRCGS lines up, FSSC 22,000 lines up,
and that all suppliers are meeting those
06:26
regulations.
06:28
I talked earlier about blockchain
analysis on raw materials and finished
06:32
goods and packaging,
bringing that in and making sure that
06:35
they're meeting the US regs or the
European regs, whatever it may be.
06:41
Brilliant.
06:41
So that kind of ties in quite nicely I
believe with the next question,
06:45
which is more focused on what you're
going to be speaking about at our
06:49
American Food Show Summit.
06:51
So can you just share a bit with us about
the topic that you'll be speaking on?
06:55
And I, I guess within that,
because I think you're going to say food
06:59
safety culture,
share a bit more about kind of how you
07:03
would define a good food safety culture.
07:07
Yeah,
so I am talking about food safety culture
07:10
leveraging my experience working out like
a Kraft Heinz where it's a larger CPG,
07:15
thousands of employees to small private,
like the spice lab is a single site
07:20
facility implementing that on the shop
floor and driving it.
07:25
So essentially what the main topic is
around that is how to quantify
07:29
qualifiable traits.
07:32
You'll be talking,
or I'll be talking about what KPIs you
07:35
want to be measuring and then ultimately
how that measures the healthiness of your
07:40
facility.
07:42
And then as I mentioned earlier,
driving from the top down for management
07:44
commitment.
07:46
And I guess within the kind of the food
safety culture, if you have a good one,
07:50
once you've managed to measure it in that
way,
07:53
whatever way you deem to be appropriate,
what impacts do you think that then that
07:58
then will have on an organisation output?
08:01
I mean,
ultimately it's going to be everything,
08:04
you know,
if you drive a good food safety culture
08:07
from management commitment and you have
ultimate buying from everyone,
08:11
the consumers getting a safe quality
product.
08:15
We try and educate, at least here,
educate the employees on the shop floor,
08:19
not so much the ultimatums of what could
happen if we're not driving good food
08:23
safety practises, but you know,
the risks that are involved with,
08:26
you know, their jobs on a daily basis.
08:29
A lot of employees,
they're coming in and just getting a
08:31
paycheck.
08:32
They're hitting a time clock,
They're getting out of here,
08:34
collecting a paycheck where they don't
understand the full meaning as to why
08:38
they're here,
why they're doing their cheques.
08:41
Why do we have to fill out all this
documentation?
08:43
Well, because XYZ.
08:46
So really educating employees on why
their job is so important in this field.
08:52
So from your experience,
could you possibly provide a few examples
08:56
of practises that you've used at the
spice lab to develop a good food safety
09:00
culture?
09:01
And I also wonder whether or not you had
any examples of where perhaps there
09:05
hasn't been one and the kind of the
repercussions that that could lead to.
09:11
So I think being able to measure it first
is, is how we need to look at it.
09:16
You can typically measure a good food
safety culture by predominantly audit
09:20
scores and customer complaints.
09:22
If you're getting a lot of heavy customer
complaints on the same product,
09:26
there's probably not good awareness
around that product.
09:29
And then you just start want you,
you throughout your investigations on
09:32
your corrective action reports,
you can usually find out why employees
09:36
aren't engaged in making sure that the
product is going out safely.
09:41
It's not just one thing, Like I said,
you know,
09:44
employee engagement's a big thing being
present on the shop floor.
09:48
I know it's very hard to do for some
employees at times where you know,
09:52
you have to meet documentation purposes
or you have audits coming up.
09:56
But it could be as simple as walking
around and saying good morning everyday,
10:01
walking the lines,
asking employees how their vacation was,
10:04
that kind of stuff.
10:06
And then ultimately having their
educational awareness of the the quality
10:11
management system on the shop floor.
10:14
It's not just simple as saying OSQF is
coming in.
10:18
We need to do XYZ today or we have an
organic audit coming up or the kosher
10:22
rabbi is coming in today to do an audit.
10:26
They need to know why they're there and
what role they play in it because it in
10:30
auditor will ask an employee,
do you know what pass up is?
10:33
Or do you know what your critical control
points are or whatever may why are you
10:38
doing these weight cheques every hour?
10:40
So if they're educated and they could
speak to a confidently,
10:44
that'll drive the further food safety
culture on the floor.
10:49
Yeah, absolutely.
10:49
I guess it's not dissimilar from kind of
other industries where employee
10:53
engagement really relies on kind of an
understanding of of the bigger picture
10:58
and why everyone's there and what role
you play within the kind of the big
11:02
machine as such.
11:05
So yeah, I guess,
I guess just kind of could you provide a
11:08
few different examples then on on where
you've seen something that's really
11:11
worked or where you kind of sit see that
maybe something hasn't worked and what
11:15
that could have led to?
11:17
Yeah.
11:18
So we use QAD red Zone as our quality
compliance on the shop floor that drives
11:23
us to do whether it's line leader huddles
or an all steering committee huddle.
11:30
So we're really pulling everyone together.
11:32
Granted,
it's easier to do when you have only 70
11:34
employees on the shop floor versus 1000
employees.
11:38
But we had the same concept at Taylor
Farms as well,
11:41
where we go from the FDA section to the
USDA section to the packing section and
11:45
make sure everyone's aligned with,
you know, the,
11:48
the food safety policy that we implement
here, our mission statement.
11:53
Having visual boards and TV's on the
floor also help because they can track
11:59
the productivity.
12:01
I think that real time data is very
beneficial.
12:06
I talked earlier about going from
paperless to the electronic version.
12:10
Now I can be in my office and if they're,
if the line's down for over 5-10 minutes,
12:15
I'll get a ping on my iPad and it'll say
why the line's down and it prompts
12:20
employees to put in, you know,
is it a mechanical issue?
12:23
Are we waiting on ingredients?
12:25
Are we waiting on packaging?
12:26
Are we just in a changeover right now?
12:29
So driving that engagement with that and
giving them the technology.
12:34
Now I don't have an employee walking
across, you know,
12:37
the entire facility coming to find me
wherever I may be in,
12:40
in the facility at the time saying we
have a quality issue.
12:43
We need to do something about it where
it's as easy as, you know,
12:46
basic texting me saying, hey,
we have an issue.
12:48
And then I'm,
I'm there within 5 minutes or so.
12:53
So I think between that and then we
utilise red zone as well for data
12:58
tracking.
12:59
So we'll track how individual lines are
doing,
13:02
how individual line leaders are doing.
13:05
And then we'll celebrate those,
those small victories as well.
13:07
We'll do like an employee of the month,
we'll put the name on, you know, the TV,
13:12
the picture on the TV will give out gift
cards.
13:15
And that really gives the extra
motivation and incentive to keep doing
13:19
better.
13:20
And ultimately that drives better
throughput, better customer satisfaction,
13:24
safer products.
13:25
That's really just the base framework as
to where you need to start.
13:29
Because they're,
they're all the experience on the floor.
13:31
They, they run those lines every day.
13:34
You're not standing next to them every
day.
13:36
So any kind of experience that you could
leverage off of them to help drive the
13:39
efficiencies is what you want to do.
13:42
Yeah.
13:42
And sometimes, as you say,
it's just so small,
13:44
kind of what feels like a small
acknowledgement of success.
13:47
And actually it goes a really long way.
13:50
Brilliant.
13:51
Well,
I don't want you to over share too much
13:53
because obviously you'll be presenting on
this in Atlanta,
13:56
but that's a nice kind of starting point
for those who aren't able to attend.
14:01
I guess similar kind of keeping in that
vein of employee engagement.
14:05
Next month actually on the FFQ Network,
we're hosting a round table which is on
14:09
the topic of how to address staffing
challenges just within the food industry.
14:14
So I wonder if you could just talk very
briefly on, you know, what,
14:18
what staffing challenges you think that
there are, if there are any and what,
14:23
yeah,
what the main challenges are facing both
14:26
employees and organisations from a
staffing perspective in this,
14:30
in this current kind of era we're in of,
of visual transformation within.
14:36
So I like I say,
if there are any staffing issues,
14:38
there's always staffing issues.
14:41
I would say from like a shop floor line
line worker type thing.
14:46
You're competing with areas around you.
14:49
I know that we've battled companies in
the past,
14:52
so they offer an extra dollar per hour.
14:56
And really the working conditions come
into play a lot too.
14:59
At Taylor Farms,
you were essentially working in a cooler
15:03
all day, and being in Florida,
it's hard going from 100° outside to 34°
15:08
inside the cooler.
15:10
So there's the battles of your
environment and then financial impact,
15:15
obviously.
15:15
So what we do at Spice Lab here is we
offer employee incentives where we do a
15:22
workout class twice a week and a yoga
class once a week.
15:27
Granted,
it's a little bit easier because you can
15:30
do it outside in Florida.
15:31
And we also have a little bit of a bigger,
bigger warehouse,
15:34
so we can isolate it into the back
warehouse area where we're able to do
15:37
that in a safe manner.
15:40
But that really keeps employees around
too.
15:42
For that.
15:42
We it's,
it's paid during the entire time too.
15:45
So as they're here doing that,
we're paying them to be here for that for
15:49
the extra half hour of the day.
15:51
And they really look forward to it at the
end of the day from a management
15:55
standpoint, you know,
people are always kind of bouncing around.
15:59
I know I'm one that's bounced around a
little bit,
16:02
so I can't say too much on that.
16:03
But again,
taking advantage of every opportunity,
16:06
there's always going to be the next
person up that wants to do that next
16:10
level experience.
16:11
They want to get involved.
16:12
And if they're showing any sort of growth
opportunities,
16:15
definitely plug them into that position
and see if they're able to see to succeed.
16:20
Brilliant.
16:21
And I guess just to kind of round things
up here,
16:23
we've kind of spoken a bit about the past.
16:25
We've spoken a bit about the present,
and now we look towards the future.
16:29
I wonder where you see the industry going
in the next 5 to 10 years and what you
16:34
kind of view that might be the main hot
topics coming up that we're going to be
16:39
talking about in, in summits to come.
16:43
I I so the easiest answer is AI use.
16:48
AI is still not as sophisticated yet
where you can't just type in the ChatGPT.
16:54
Write me a food safety plan.
16:57
You still need to have that level of
experience, that shop floor experience,
17:02
hands on experience where you can take
chat GPTS template or framework and then
17:07
modify it to your facility.
17:10
I know that there are times where I'm
struggling with a sentence or need a
17:13
phrase a paragraph differently.
17:15
I say hey can you reword this?
17:18
But it's still me typing up what I want
in there.
17:23
It it scares me a little bit right now
with how a lot of software developers are
17:29
trying to get an overarching umbrella
food safety plan.
17:33
And as we all know in the industry,
not one food safety plan fits all.
17:38
It's great to have like that PCQI
background and has a training background
17:43
where you know the framework as to what
you need to write,
17:46
but you still need to be educated on all
your risks that go into it,
17:50
how to formulate the actual template
itself.
17:54
But I think AI is going to be the growing
trend here.
17:59
There's just so much that it offers right
now that I don't think it knows what to
18:03
pull yet.
18:04
For creation of a documentation,
we do use it for stuff like write me a
18:10
letter of guarantee,
write me a bioterrorism act letter,
18:15
write me GMP letter, that kind of stuff.
18:18
But we still have to go in and comb it
through with a pine tooth comb and make
18:22
sure it reads to what we want to say.
18:25
Yeah,
we're still in the stage where the humans
18:28
are very much required in order to tailor
what their AI can kind of work with.
18:34
But what,
what would you ideally like to see change
18:38
within the next 5 years within the
industry?
18:42
So I think more visibility of foreign
suppliers, well,
18:45
not just foreign but domestic as well.
18:48
And I talked to her about GS1 with the
the blockchain analysis getting more rags
18:55
around that.
18:57
I know that in the spice industry,
we source stuff from all corners of the
19:01
world,
whether it's packaging or raw materials
19:03
themselves.
19:05
I know FISMA 2O four traceability is
really starting to come down on that a
19:10
lot more,
where they're demanding more evidence as
19:13
to where things are coming from and it's
heading in the right direction in my
19:18
opinion.
19:19
But that's one of the things.
19:20
And then I think just bringing more
awareness to the industry.
19:25
As I mentioned earlier,
I didn't take any food safety courses in
19:29
college, but once I got into it,
I realised that there was a lot out there
19:34
between the conferences and the education,
the seminars,
19:37
because it's not a glorified go be a
doctor, go be a lawyer, go be, you know,
19:42
whatever it may be.
19:44
So I think people,
and we're starting to get there a lot
19:47
more.
19:48
I'm seeing a younger group of people
attending these conferences,
19:52
becoming more involved on LinkedIn,
which is great to see.
19:55
I love seeing that because I I still
consider myself younger in the industry
20:00
right now,
but it's nice seeing that new regime
20:03
start to come up and you know, being.
20:06
Being able to educate them and take them
on your wing and tell them about,
20:10
you know,
my career path and how I got to where I
20:12
am.
20:14
And then just, you know,
promoting good food safety practises for
20:17
the future use.
20:19
Absolutely.
20:19
I mean, we've spoken to a couple of other,
I've spoken to a couple of other FS2
20:23
network members who have had a similar
experience to you where they didn't go
20:27
into university with this kind of grand
plan to end up in food safety.
20:31
But when kind of then looking at the
opportunities available with science,
20:34
with the science background,
this is kind of how they've where they've
20:37
found themselves to be.
20:38
And it's increasing that awareness around
the opportunities available within this
20:42
industry.
20:43
And obviously,
how impactful it is on every single
20:46
person around the world's kind of health
and well-being is key.
20:51
So hopefully,
hopefully we can continue doing that.
20:54
Yeah, absolutely.
20:55
The network.
20:56
Brilliant.
20:57
Thank you so, so much for your time.
20:58
It was great to speak.
21:00
And as we said at the beginning,
obviously you'll be in Atlanta in at the
21:04
end of March.
21:05
So anyone watching this will be able to
hear your full presentation there.
21:11
And I will put all of the details about
how to get tickets and where you can kind
21:15
of find more information around the event
underneath this video when we share it on
21:20
the network.
21:22
Perfect.
21:22
Thanks so much for your time, Michael.
21:24
It's great to speak to you.
21:25
Great.
21:26
Thank you, Tori.
21:26
I appreciate it.
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