Spotlight on... Michael Ciepiela

Ahead of the American Food Sure Summit 2025, Torie spoke to Michael Ciepiela, Director of Food Safety & Quality Assurance at The Spice Lab, about his career in food safety, the importance of a good food safety culture and his outlook on the future of the industry.
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Ahead of the American Food Sure Summit 2025, Torie spoke to Michael Ciepiela, Director of Food Safety & Quality Assurance at The Spice Lab, about his career in food safety, the importance of a good food safety culture and his outlook on the future of the industry.

Michael will be speaking at the annual American Food Sure Summit in Atlanta - don't miss out on two brilliant days of presentations from experts across the food safety and quality industry. Click here to get tickets.

Video Transcript

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Hi everyone and welcome to this FSQ Network interview with Michael Chipiella.
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Michael has over a decade of diverse experience in the food and beverage
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industry, along with experience in the
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pharmaceutical sector specialising in quality assurance and food safety.
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His current role is Director of Food Safety and Quality Insurance at the Spice
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Lab.
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Michael will be speaking at the upcoming American Food Show Summit in Atlanta in
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March about food safety culture and joins me today to share a bit more on this
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topic.
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So thank you so much for being here, Michael.
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Yeah, thank you for having me.
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I appreciate it.
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Perfect.
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So let's just kick off a bit with a bit of background to you.
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When and how did you get into the food safety industry?
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And also, can you share a bit about what your
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current role is?
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Yeah, so I started in the food industry about
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12 years ago now.
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I started as AQA Tech right out of college, in college.
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So I didn't really take any food safety courses.
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It wasn't really offered to me.
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My degree was more focused in biology and genetics based.
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So when I got to school, I applied for everything that said
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biology and got into the food science side of things and then just started
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climbing the corporate ladder very quickly.
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You know, as AQA Tech, you're, you're eager to learn all fast sets of
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food safety operations.
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I've always been in quality assurance throughout my entire career.
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I've never gone like production or R& D or anything like that.
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But I'm very big on taking advantage of any,
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every opportunity you have in front of you.
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And I knew I wanted to do more than just be AQA Tech the rest of my life.
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And the, the next position up at my, my first company,
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the supervisor had been there for like 30 plus years.
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So I'm like, I need to bounce around a little bit here.
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And then as I started bouncing around to different food sectors,
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I started getting more and more experience.
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You know, I worked in confections, I worked in dairy, worked in meats,
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worked in salsas and then in pharmaceutical a little bit.
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So like I said, just taking advantage of that.
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Went to school in New York, so I wanted to escape the snowy weather
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up there.
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So eventually it bounced right down to Florida and that's where I am now as
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director of food safety and quality assurance at the Spice Lab.
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Amazing.
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I am actually going to New York in a couple of weeks,
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so I'm hoping that the the cold chill has like passed a little bit,
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but we'll have to see.
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Yeah, it's it's it's a little chilly down here
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in Florida right now.
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It's in the 50s.
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So that's why I got the long sleeve on.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Poor you, poor you.
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Brilliant.
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So I guess from that kind of extensive experience,
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I wonder how you think that the food safety industry has changed since when
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you first started out and where you are now.
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So I would say the biggest thing is probably going paperless.
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A lot of things are going to the online integration,
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whether you're tracking quality or regulatory compliance cheques through an
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iPad or doing production cheques on the floor.
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I'm used to walking around or early on walking around the clipboard,
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doing the the cheques with the pen and then filing away that piece of paper in a
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filing cabinet.
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And the filing cabinet just keeps growing, growing, growing, growing.
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And then obviously for traceability purposes,
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it makes it a lot more challenging with being able to find that specific document,
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especially one if you have a lot like a longer shelf life.
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So for example, we have salts here that go 10 years.
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I mean, salt really never expires, but we, we put ten years on it and then having to
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go back 10 years looking for that specific document.
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If you have a a recall on there for some reason, knock on wood,
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you know you're able to find it, but you know the first one being
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paperless.
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Secondly, I attended a conference last year and GS
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1 is really starting to do a really good job with magnification of clean labels,
04:00
including a smart label on a lot of the products.
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Specifically in produce side of things.
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You want to know exactly where your crop came from,
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what field it was treated with is organic, it's non organic,
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so the pesticide comes into play in there.
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And then being able to track that all the way through both domestically and
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internationally.
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And then lastly, going forward, just the exposure of conferences and
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papers and webinars and seminars and all this has really grown a lot.
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And that might just be from my exposure from starting as AQA Tech to becoming a
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director now.
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You know, I get a little bit more of that side of
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things in the regulatory and trainings and education,
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but I feel like there's more of that out there now.
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Consumers are demanding more from manufacturers as they should.
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And I think it's a really good thing that we're playing into that and giving more
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education to everyone.
04:57
Yeah, I guess it's really about our ability to
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have so much more information at our fingertips,
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both as consumers and then also from a kind of as a employee of a company being
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able to access the the information and and dig into it a little bit.
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So that's great.
05:12
I guess on the flip side of that come, well,
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we all know kind of that that digital transformation piece comes with its own
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challenges.
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But what do you think that the main challenges are currently facing the food
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safety industry?
05:26
So from a couple different side of things.
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So internally, I would say driving a food safety culture,
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it's hard to establish a robust food safety culture across especially like a
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bigger CPG where you have multi sites, thousands of employees as opposed to a
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smaller privately owned company where you have one site.
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That's one of the biggest things for that.
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And then in conjunction with that, the management pie in for that.
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So as the quality representative you want to be on the shop floor driving this
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culture if you will, that forces the employees practise good
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food safety practises.
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And then how you measure that ultimately externally keeping up with harmonised
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regulations.
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There's a lot of different regulations, especially internationally and domestic.
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We're getting closer to that now, but overall,
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just kind of tying that all together and making sure that SQF lines up,
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BRCGS lines up, FSSC 22,000 lines up, and that all suppliers are meeting those
06:26
regulations.
06:28
I talked earlier about blockchain analysis on raw materials and finished
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goods and packaging, bringing that in and making sure that
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they're meeting the US regs or the European regs, whatever it may be.
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Brilliant.
06:41
So that kind of ties in quite nicely I believe with the next question,
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which is more focused on what you're going to be speaking about at our
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American Food Show Summit.
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So can you just share a bit with us about the topic that you'll be speaking on?
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And I, I guess within that, because I think you're going to say food
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safety culture, share a bit more about kind of how you
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would define a good food safety culture.
07:07
Yeah, so I am talking about food safety culture
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leveraging my experience working out like a Kraft Heinz where it's a larger CPG,
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thousands of employees to small private, like the spice lab is a single site
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facility implementing that on the shop floor and driving it.
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So essentially what the main topic is around that is how to quantify
07:29
qualifiable traits.
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You'll be talking, or I'll be talking about what KPIs you
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want to be measuring and then ultimately how that measures the healthiness of your
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facility.
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And then as I mentioned earlier, driving from the top down for management
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commitment.
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And I guess within the kind of the food safety culture, if you have a good one,
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once you've managed to measure it in that way,
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whatever way you deem to be appropriate, what impacts do you think that then that
07:58
then will have on an organisation output?
08:01
I mean, ultimately it's going to be everything,
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you know, if you drive a good food safety culture
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from management commitment and you have ultimate buying from everyone,
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the consumers getting a safe quality product.
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We try and educate, at least here, educate the employees on the shop floor,
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not so much the ultimatums of what could happen if we're not driving good food
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safety practises, but you know, the risks that are involved with,
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you know, their jobs on a daily basis.
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A lot of employees, they're coming in and just getting a
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paycheck.
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They're hitting a time clock, They're getting out of here,
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collecting a paycheck where they don't understand the full meaning as to why
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they're here, why they're doing their cheques.
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Why do we have to fill out all this documentation?
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Well, because XYZ.
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So really educating employees on why their job is so important in this field.
08:52
So from your experience, could you possibly provide a few examples
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of practises that you've used at the spice lab to develop a good food safety
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culture?
09:01
And I also wonder whether or not you had any examples of where perhaps there
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hasn't been one and the kind of the repercussions that that could lead to.
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So I think being able to measure it first is, is how we need to look at it.
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You can typically measure a good food safety culture by predominantly audit
09:20
scores and customer complaints.
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If you're getting a lot of heavy customer complaints on the same product,
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there's probably not good awareness around that product.
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And then you just start want you, you throughout your investigations on
09:32
your corrective action reports, you can usually find out why employees
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aren't engaged in making sure that the product is going out safely.
09:41
It's not just one thing, Like I said, you know,
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employee engagement's a big thing being present on the shop floor.
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I know it's very hard to do for some employees at times where you know,
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you have to meet documentation purposes or you have audits coming up.
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But it could be as simple as walking around and saying good morning everyday,
10:01
walking the lines, asking employees how their vacation was,
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that kind of stuff.
10:06
And then ultimately having their educational awareness of the the quality
10:11
management system on the shop floor.
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It's not just simple as saying OSQF is coming in.
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We need to do XYZ today or we have an organic audit coming up or the kosher
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rabbi is coming in today to do an audit.
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They need to know why they're there and what role they play in it because it in
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auditor will ask an employee, do you know what pass up is?
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Or do you know what your critical control points are or whatever may why are you
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doing these weight cheques every hour?
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So if they're educated and they could speak to a confidently,
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that'll drive the further food safety culture on the floor.
10:49
Yeah, absolutely.
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I guess it's not dissimilar from kind of other industries where employee
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engagement really relies on kind of an understanding of of the bigger picture
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and why everyone's there and what role you play within the kind of the big
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machine as such.
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So yeah, I guess, I guess just kind of could you provide a
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few different examples then on on where you've seen something that's really
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worked or where you kind of sit see that maybe something hasn't worked and what
11:15
that could have led to?
11:17
Yeah.
11:18
So we use QAD red Zone as our quality compliance on the shop floor that drives
11:23
us to do whether it's line leader huddles or an all steering committee huddle.
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So we're really pulling everyone together.
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Granted, it's easier to do when you have only 70
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employees on the shop floor versus 1000 employees.
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But we had the same concept at Taylor Farms as well,
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where we go from the FDA section to the USDA section to the packing section and
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make sure everyone's aligned with, you know, the,
11:48
the food safety policy that we implement here, our mission statement.
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Having visual boards and TV's on the floor also help because they can track
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the productivity.
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I think that real time data is very beneficial.
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I talked earlier about going from paperless to the electronic version.
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Now I can be in my office and if they're, if the line's down for over 5-10 minutes,
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I'll get a ping on my iPad and it'll say why the line's down and it prompts
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employees to put in, you know, is it a mechanical issue?
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Are we waiting on ingredients?
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Are we waiting on packaging?
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Are we just in a changeover right now?
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So driving that engagement with that and giving them the technology.
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Now I don't have an employee walking across, you know,
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the entire facility coming to find me wherever I may be in,
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in the facility at the time saying we have a quality issue.
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We need to do something about it where it's as easy as, you know,
12:46
basic texting me saying, hey, we have an issue.
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And then I'm, I'm there within 5 minutes or so.
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So I think between that and then we utilise red zone as well for data
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tracking.
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So we'll track how individual lines are doing,
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how individual line leaders are doing.
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And then we'll celebrate those, those small victories as well.
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We'll do like an employee of the month, we'll put the name on, you know, the TV,
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the picture on the TV will give out gift cards.
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And that really gives the extra motivation and incentive to keep doing
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better.
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And ultimately that drives better throughput, better customer satisfaction,
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safer products.
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That's really just the base framework as to where you need to start.
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Because they're, they're all the experience on the floor.
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They, they run those lines every day.
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You're not standing next to them every day.
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So any kind of experience that you could leverage off of them to help drive the
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efficiencies is what you want to do.
13:42
Yeah.
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And sometimes, as you say, it's just so small,
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kind of what feels like a small acknowledgement of success.
13:47
And actually it goes a really long way.
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Brilliant.
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Well, I don't want you to over share too much
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because obviously you'll be presenting on this in Atlanta,
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but that's a nice kind of starting point for those who aren't able to attend.
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I guess similar kind of keeping in that vein of employee engagement.
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Next month actually on the FFQ Network, we're hosting a round table which is on
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the topic of how to address staffing challenges just within the food industry.
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So I wonder if you could just talk very briefly on, you know, what,
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what staffing challenges you think that there are, if there are any and what,
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yeah, what the main challenges are facing both
14:26
employees and organisations from a staffing perspective in this,
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in this current kind of era we're in of, of visual transformation within.
14:36
So I like I say, if there are any staffing issues,
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there's always staffing issues.
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I would say from like a shop floor line line worker type thing.
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You're competing with areas around you.
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I know that we've battled companies in the past,
14:52
so they offer an extra dollar per hour.
14:56
And really the working conditions come into play a lot too.
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At Taylor Farms, you were essentially working in a cooler
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all day, and being in Florida, it's hard going from 100° outside to 34°
15:08
inside the cooler.
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So there's the battles of your environment and then financial impact,
15:15
obviously.
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So what we do at Spice Lab here is we offer employee incentives where we do a
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workout class twice a week and a yoga class once a week.
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Granted, it's a little bit easier because you can
15:30
do it outside in Florida.
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And we also have a little bit of a bigger, bigger warehouse,
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so we can isolate it into the back warehouse area where we're able to do
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that in a safe manner.
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But that really keeps employees around too.
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For that.
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We it's, it's paid during the entire time too.
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So as they're here doing that, we're paying them to be here for that for
15:49
the extra half hour of the day.
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And they really look forward to it at the end of the day from a management
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standpoint, you know, people are always kind of bouncing around.
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I know I'm one that's bounced around a little bit,
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so I can't say too much on that.
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But again, taking advantage of every opportunity,
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there's always going to be the next person up that wants to do that next
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level experience.
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They want to get involved.
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And if they're showing any sort of growth opportunities,
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definitely plug them into that position and see if they're able to see to succeed.
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Brilliant.
16:21
And I guess just to kind of round things up here,
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we've kind of spoken a bit about the past.
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We've spoken a bit about the present, and now we look towards the future.
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I wonder where you see the industry going in the next 5 to 10 years and what you
16:34
kind of view that might be the main hot topics coming up that we're going to be
16:39
talking about in, in summits to come.
16:43
I I so the easiest answer is AI use.
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AI is still not as sophisticated yet where you can't just type in the ChatGPT.
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Write me a food safety plan.
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You still need to have that level of experience, that shop floor experience,
17:02
hands on experience where you can take chat GPTS template or framework and then
17:07
modify it to your facility.
17:10
I know that there are times where I'm struggling with a sentence or need a
17:13
phrase a paragraph differently.
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I say hey can you reword this?
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But it's still me typing up what I want in there.
17:23
It it scares me a little bit right now with how a lot of software developers are
17:29
trying to get an overarching umbrella food safety plan.
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And as we all know in the industry, not one food safety plan fits all.
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It's great to have like that PCQI background and has a training background
17:43
where you know the framework as to what you need to write,
17:46
but you still need to be educated on all your risks that go into it,
17:50
how to formulate the actual template itself.
17:54
But I think AI is going to be the growing trend here.
17:59
There's just so much that it offers right now that I don't think it knows what to
18:03
pull yet.
18:04
For creation of a documentation, we do use it for stuff like write me a
18:10
letter of guarantee, write me a bioterrorism act letter,
18:15
write me GMP letter, that kind of stuff.
18:18
But we still have to go in and comb it through with a pine tooth comb and make
18:22
sure it reads to what we want to say.
18:25
Yeah, we're still in the stage where the humans
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are very much required in order to tailor what their AI can kind of work with.
18:34
But what, what would you ideally like to see change
18:38
within the next 5 years within the industry?
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So I think more visibility of foreign suppliers, well,
18:45
not just foreign but domestic as well.
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And I talked to her about GS1 with the the blockchain analysis getting more rags
18:55
around that.
18:57
I know that in the spice industry, we source stuff from all corners of the
19:01
world, whether it's packaging or raw materials
19:03
themselves.
19:05
I know FISMA 2O four traceability is really starting to come down on that a
19:10
lot more, where they're demanding more evidence as
19:13
to where things are coming from and it's heading in the right direction in my
19:18
opinion.
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But that's one of the things.
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And then I think just bringing more awareness to the industry.
19:25
As I mentioned earlier, I didn't take any food safety courses in
19:29
college, but once I got into it, I realised that there was a lot out there
19:34
between the conferences and the education, the seminars,
19:37
because it's not a glorified go be a doctor, go be a lawyer, go be, you know,
19:42
whatever it may be.
19:44
So I think people, and we're starting to get there a lot
19:47
more.
19:48
I'm seeing a younger group of people attending these conferences,
19:52
becoming more involved on LinkedIn, which is great to see.
19:55
I love seeing that because I I still consider myself younger in the industry
20:00
right now, but it's nice seeing that new regime
20:03
start to come up and you know, being.
20:06
Being able to educate them and take them on your wing and tell them about,
20:10
you know, my career path and how I got to where I
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am.
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And then just, you know, promoting good food safety practises for
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the future use.
20:19
Absolutely.
20:19
I mean, we've spoken to a couple of other, I've spoken to a couple of other FS2
20:23
network members who have had a similar experience to you where they didn't go
20:27
into university with this kind of grand plan to end up in food safety.
20:31
But when kind of then looking at the opportunities available with science,
20:34
with the science background, this is kind of how they've where they've
20:37
found themselves to be.
20:38
And it's increasing that awareness around the opportunities available within this
20:42
industry.
20:43
And obviously, how impactful it is on every single
20:46
person around the world's kind of health and well-being is key.
20:51
So hopefully, hopefully we can continue doing that.
20:54
Yeah, absolutely.
20:55
The network.
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Brilliant.
20:57
Thank you so, so much for your time.
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It was great to speak.
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And as we said at the beginning, obviously you'll be in Atlanta in at the
21:04
end of March.
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So anyone watching this will be able to hear your full presentation there.
21:11
And I will put all of the details about how to get tickets and where you can kind
21:15
of find more information around the event underneath this video when we share it on
21:20
the network.
21:22
Perfect.
21:22
Thanks so much for your time, Michael.
21:24
It's great to speak to you.
21:25
Great.
21:26
Thank you, Tori.
21:26
I appreciate it.

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